"Criminal aliens prey on their own community"

Newell Normand
Wednesday, June 13th
Jessica Vaughn, Director of Policu Studies at Center for Immigration Studies, talks about the recent raids in New Jersey. 

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We're talking about it has a very important issue I spoke she just cannot make this stuff up. You know president trump when he talked about. Ice enforcement immigration enforcement. He talked about the dangers in this story says a revealing themselves suggests very telling in fact there was a round up in New Jersey. There were nationals. Of angry look. Bangladesh Cameroon Colombia Cuba Dominican Republic Ecuador Egypt El Salvador Ghana Guatemala Guinea Yana. Haiti Honduras Jamaica Korea. Macedonia. Mexico Nicaragua. Pakistan Philippines Petit who. Poland Spain Saint Lucia. Trinidad and Venezuela. That were arrested. And everybody wants to say that this is all about anything it's been going on is about. Just the Central American countries and the Mexican border it's not true. It's much bigger than that and in fact this round up also. Netted. Folks that have been convicted for aggravated assault child endangerment. Criminal sexual contact kidnapping homicide drug offenses and other crimes. And they were over 91. Foreign nationals arrested in here to talk to us about this happenstance and the challenges that ice faces across the country is Jessica Vaughn director your director excuse me a policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies. Welcome to the show Jessica. Jessica I make the observation in the opening statement simply to make the point that everybody thinks it's only about what's going on in the border in this. Challenge in these issues are so much broader than that. What's up. That's exactly right am I mean illegal immigration is the problem from countries all over the world and are about 40% of illegal population living in the United States. I had come in on legal uses and overstate them and the big problem is is that in Fort Smith in the interior of the country. Has been ignored. Or at least what ignored for many years prior to the trump administration. Making it a priority. But I think it's important for people to understand also that. The highest priority for enforcement always has in that small fraction of the illegal population. That is. Committing other. Time to come to light his attention because they've done something else that gets them a rested by state and local law enforcement agencies. And they admit that's why their priorities it once they want to use their resources on the people who are creating the most problems in the communities where they're living. That's not to say that they don't sometimes arrest other toward that. No work site enforcement. You know is. Not also legitimate but this is the main priority for I. And they have to do many more of these operations now in the community. Because there are so many jurisdictions that have been these misguided sanctuary policies. That prevent ice. From making their wrath of their priority targets in the jail where. It's fate for the I thought that there isn't safe for the community now because of sanctuary policies that we leased these individuals. They've got to go I had to go out and get. Yeah you know I just. And I've had a number of shows on this issue and some people say and think that I had to Manny but the fact of the matter uses that as a former law enforcement officer and and and a sheriff. I am very much concerned. About the and as you pointed out I think this is a good distinction. Is it it's a small faction. Of the number of illegals that are in this country that are having a huge impact and quality of life in our communities across this country. That are wreaking Havoc because they are impact. Criminals. They are sucking the life Fata communities across this country. And why are we would want to protect those folks I have no idea. Right and in the people who are most harmed by sanctuary policies or other non enforcement policies and that end up. Protecting criminal aliens are other immigrants because these criminal aliens often. Most often preyed on their own communities where they're living and especially new. One of people arrested in this operation in New Jersey was an MS thirteen member whose traffic in firearms and narcotics. He he not come in my neighborhood. He terrorizing people in his neighborhood where he can. You know his fellow gang members extort people they sexually assault people that make life miserable in immigrant community. And so. Enforcement protects everybody. There are engaged in the same conduct they were engaged in from their origin country that anxious enabled and they move into these communities. That are the folks from other origin country that they can just. You know. Wreak Havoc on and take advantage of not unlike what they did back home. That's right and and some of these problems are too big for local law enforcement agencies to. Deal with on their. And when you have members of the community who are in the country illegally they're very vulnerable to enforcement by ice and that's why it's really important to have. Partnerships and open lines of communication. Between local police sheriffs and immigration authorities say they can work together. Give remove these people from the streets because. Yeah especially you find the gang members. MS thirteen is truly transnational. Gang that operates across borders. And you want I can to come in and help deal with them you know local police department should have to try to cope without on the. There are sick series of articles done by a reporter I think his name was Mike Miller with the Washington Post as I call. And if he talked about a middle school. On the East Coast that had been completely taken over by the MS thirteen ineffective teachers the administrators and everyone else were completely. In fear. Of this gang and then it is like you said it was a small number of folks but they just completely. Wreaked Havoc in the name of the school is the William work middle school in Riverdale Maryland. And indeed and it it's gotten to the point where they don't. People just thrown up their arms I don't even know what to do anymore they can't protect their kids. That it. Very very active that it's gotten to that point that it's almost like in milk goes down in an MS thirteen is uniquely. Brutal gang and they. They have their power and intimidation. Abilities through violence because they're completely bloodthirsty and and brutal. And and they would you know slit somebody's throat. At the drop of the hat just to prove how bad are. That would end. And there presence in this country has grown very recently because. In 2012 there's and the influx. Unaccompanied minors and families with kids from Central America. The gang understood. That and lenient policies would result in teenagers. Are being released when they arrived at the border illegally. And so they specifically to recruited teens from El Salvador and Honduras especially. To grow the ranks of the gangs here in the United States and on top of it all these other families are also coming in here who were getting Lee. Am attempt to apply for asylum. Their kids during these same schools and they are very vulnerable to recruitment. By MS thirteen or eight sometimes eighteenth street other gangs. And and it is causing this kind of wild west atmosphere in the school the comedy yes some school. Authorities don't want to admit that they have bad gang problems that they don't want. The police because you know they beat the you know send the wrong signal of some kind. But the parents are very upset about it and it's it's got to be addressed and it's gonna take immigration enforcement and and other law enforcement action case to get these dogs out of. Just security it is this changing their act they say it's a change in policy as it relates to this asylum issue and it's seems as though. They're trying to address loop holes there's been 872%. Increase in person Seeking Asylum since 2000. And all in. So where are we are listening audience where exactly are we in wooded and stay and there are five criteria that'll looked adding in trying to determine whether or nurture eligible for asylum in this country. That's right I'm in in early 2000 that something like 5000 people a year who would show up the borders Seeking Asylum now it's. More than 90000 probably this year approaching a 100000 more. And so it's it's. Read and it's gone up so much is because of a change that was originally made and the Obama administration. That imposed to catch and release policies that you know. Overturned. Decades of policies that you know we're gonna hold joint custody to hear cases decided. That was gone by the wayside so hence the surge from Central America. What and also under the Obama administration 2014 there was a decision by the immigration courts that found that. Women do experience domestic violence. Or armed people who were. Com who who had witnessed crimes and lived in crime ridden areas and Central America. Could. Potentially get asylum here. And you know that also opened up the opportunities for people to come here and start making claims just you know saying that they were. Fleeing violence Serbs fleeing their husband is nowhere to go. I'm so they had to leave their home countries in the the government would protect them what the attorney general has done to use his authority to instruct. Immigration judges on and how to interpret the law. And say that but we're gonna go. To what the law actually says that was passed in 1980 it's says if you if you wind. Refuge here you have to show that you've been persecuted based on your read religion. Com. Citizenship. Or membership and a and a particular social group and that your government is enabling this persecution. That it's not enough to say simply that you you know you. Live in. A crime ridden area or that. Your husband beat you that is those situations are that's not a bases for political asylum. Think that this is really going back to what the law intended. Rather than its current kind of you know. Stretched beyond belief form that we see now. And it did to impose them what that attorney general calls legal discipline on this process that. We all sympathize and understand that there are. Countries that struggle to Millwood to achieve civil society and that people live in hardship. But the the immigration laws of the United States are not remedy for that and you know we can't solve those problems by letting everyone moved here. And and they have other options can even if they are genuinely persecuted. They can apply inflate their countries like Mexico or Costa Rica Panama. Yeah it did that. Did you know it should not be you know highways people coming into the United States thinking that they can locate here on the basis of these. Admittedly that's situations. But you know which are not really persecution. You know historically it's always been about government persecution or government action in in many cases and it seems as though now all. The detractors. To this policy change our defending. Kind of that did the defensive use of asylum. Especially while being deported if there in in deportation proceedings all of a sudden they seek asylum. And it's now you know the code word is government inaction. So you know it Central American countries they said the government's not doing anything and I well we could make the same observations about this country. I wish that. Where are where our domestic. Abuse victims we we do they seek asylum if you're a US citizen and I mean Russia's acquires and I don't mean it. I don't mean to make light of it but the fact of the matter is is that. Their recent reports about homicides in this country about how many of them go unsolved. And in in all of these other issues that we had where we're into our own citizens seek asylum when when they're being persecuted against by their. Form a loved one. Or otherwise. Well that it doesn't really good point and end it it underlines that you know I think we all. Feel. You know. Sorry for and you know would love to be able to help people. Do experience violence in victimized in that way and other countries side. We need to have the same sympathy for people who are in that situation here in the United States and help our communities deal with those problems here. Is it just is not a solution to say you know that people can just sort of pickup and move wherever dateline. And I think we should be helping governments and Central America if they want our help. Deal with these problems. In the long run that's best for everybody and that should be be appropriate policy response for two problems in other countries like America. Couple talking with you know our camp which you know we can't bring people in here. Thank you so much for joining us we really appreciate your insight and thanks for taking time out of your busy day. You're very welcome all right they just move on with the Center for Immigration Studies.